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Clunkshift
08-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Engineer’s Rant - Are Air Fresheners ethical?

Historically, artificial “Air Freshening” has been the release of a chemical fragrance into the air, either from an impregnated crystalline block or a wick to draw the liquid up from a reservoir to evaporate.

In the 1960’s ‘70s & ‘80s the chemicals were directly sprayed into the air by compressed hydrocarbon gas from an aerosol can.
Aerosols came to be seen as environmentally damaging because of the release of ozone destroying gases – strangely the material and energy cost of producing a “disposable” metal canister containing plastics, fragrance and pressurised propellant container was never an issue.

Now we have disposable fragrance dispensers which have a huge carbon footprint. They are made of complex plastic mouldings and contain chemicals batteries and electronics.
Plastics are made from ethylene, which is extracted from oil in a refinery, but unlike diesel or gasoline it has to be refined, polymerised, granulated, pigmented and injection moulded before it becomes a usable component. Then we add the chemical fragrance, which has been produced in a chemical plant from hydrocarbon aromatics and all sorts of extracted essences. To power it we have a small battery made of substances like lithium which cost a fortune in energy to produce and package, and then we have small mechanical and electronic parts containing precious and base metals along with silicon and more special plastics. And the final insult is when it is shipped by the container load from China to the gadget hungry UK consumer.

Am I alone in thinking that these items are a terrible condemnation of a consumer society?

I drive a 4x4 because I need a vehicle that tows 3.5 tonnes; the dust to dust lifetime cost of a V8 Jeep is lower than any hybrid car and mine is a more economical diesel, but society likes to point to 4x4 ownership as a carbon crime, while quietly using even more energy producing useless disposable gizmos and short life “consumer durables”.

Last week a trans-Pennine train operator told its drivers to turn the engine off while going downhill to save fuel. Those of you that travel to railway termini may notice that diesel trains are mostly left idling for quite long periods of time. The reason is that once a large engine is running, it costs less to keep it running at working temperature on a weak mixture than to re-start from cold with attendant engine wear in turbochargers and cylinders. (this is why you should never blip the throttle of a car before switching off, or switch off without allowing the engine to slow down to idle speed first – especially an engine with a turbocharger)

It honestly grieves me to see “disposable” plastic items and consumer "durables" like kettles that can’t have new elements fitted, toasters that can’t be fitted with new elements and non-rebuildable irons and other similar goods. The old truism “look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves” is true of energy too. Plastic is made from oil, it is rarely recycled into useful products and costs a lot of energy to produce, If we are careful about all the little things, it will take care of bigger things too.

Oh, and I loathe the TV presenters who stand in front of cooling towers and talk about pollution – steam from cooling does not pollute, it may look spectacular but pollution comes from chimneys, not cooling towers.

Clunk (steaming from ears) x.

keepersdaughter
08-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Clunk, I certainly agree. There are whole aisles of those airfresheners touting natural fresh air or floral fragrance. They smell anything but natural. There have been many fires reported with the 'plug in' type fresheners that you plug into the electic socket which release a constant stream of artifical odours. I don't think most people stop to consider or even realise the environmental consequences. When I need to get rid of cooking odours or freshen the air, I put on a small saucepan of water to which I add some cinnamon sticks, sometimes a little nutmeg, vanilla or lemon slices. Makes the air smell much better than those plasticy immitations. I also get rather annoyed when 'celebrities tell us how wasteful 'we' all are, how 'we' must use energy efficient lightbulbs, buy small cars, cut down on unnecessary travel etc. while 'they' travel alone in private jets, ride in huge gas guzzling limos while they travel to each of their many huge homes scattered throughout the world!

franbee
08-09-2008, 08:47 PM
I think that a lot of the modern problems you have mentioned are a result of 'civilisation'. For instance, air fresheners weren't as necessary when people had open fires and draughts, or they used pot pourrie, or just didn't worry quite as much about scented homes. I try to limit the chemicals we use, open windows for fresh air, keep the heating low , and so on.
There was a lady on TV a few weeks ago trying to live for a month without buying anything using plastic. She struggled with some things like nappies, difficult to imagine not having plastic pants! but seemed to be managing quite well otherwise. Never heard the final outcome.

souter girl
08-09-2008, 09:48 PM
I had a couple of bowls of pot pourri out until recently - the (new) greyhound thought she might like to try it and I came into our sitting room to find chewed up (and spat out again) dried orange slices, star anise and fir cones. To do her credit, she gave it a jolly good go before deciding that perhaps you can't eat pot pourri!! Try anything once, that's my dog (and like Bruce and the spider, try, try and try again!)

sandybay
09-09-2008, 11:35 AM
Agree with you Clunk re air freshners.

We as consumers are made to feel we are stinky smelly people who can only become socially acceptable by spending £'sss on useless consumer items.

These plug in 'blow fragrance out' air fresheners have concerned some vets who have noticed skin problems in animals that may have been 'blown' on. What affect on crawling babies and toddlers may be there ?

A friend was moaning the other day that she got a speeding ticket for going 37mph in a 30mph zone. Her excuse was that she did not apply her brakes going down hill in order to save fuel and save the planet from carbon emissions. !!!! Tell that to the family whose child you may kill by speeding....

Rustic Pumpkin
09-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Clunk, can you hear me SCREAMING from Wild, Wet and Windy West Wales?

Disposable is one word that gets me going. Or should I say a lifestyle that gets me going? My kettle, for instance, is on its last legs and is now becoming dangerous, but still I soldier on with it because it still does the job!

My cousin's young son suffers from chronic asthma. They have replaced all the carpets with wood flooring to help him, yet there is a plug in in every single room of their home, including the hall and his bedroom! Needless to say, he still suffers dreadfully.

Crocus
09-09-2008, 03:11 PM
Mr C doesn't like air fresheners at all, so it's not in use in our house at all, apart from obvious reasons for not using it.

Ivy
10-09-2008, 04:34 PM
If you need an air freshener pick up a stone or rock with a rough surface and put some essential oil (really distilled from a plant not from a a lab) and sprinkle a few drops over the stone. . To the rest Clunck I couldn't approve more

Rustic Pumpkin
10-09-2008, 09:28 PM
What about incense sticks? I use a lot of these and the smell is not offensive, it is gentle and background, and I store the sticks in my clothes drawers where my clothes pick up the smell.

At the moment I am burning huge Neem ones that burn for 4 - 5 hours as an air purifier and insect repellant. The house smells like a pleasant Autumn day with a bonfire in the distance.

Sarahc
10-09-2008, 09:42 PM
I hate air freshners. Nevermind your excellent disposable argument, it's inhaling chemicals that turns my stomach, then they make it stink so you can't even politely ignore it! I used to have a problem at work with spray polishes the leaners used on my desk - if I wore short sleeves I ended up with a rash on my forearms by the end of the day! Don't get me wrong, I appreciated that they wiped my desk down, but why the need for spray?

Oola
10-09-2008, 11:40 PM
When Mum moved into her new house where'd they previously had dogs, they tried to 'mask' the smell with loads of plug in air fresheners. It just smelt like a nasty mix of wet dog and pseudo fragrance. Mum just wanged open the windows and let the fresh air do it's thing. However, she does now use a plug with a refillable Feliway diffuser (to help keep the cats relaxed and settled, one used to go for another and since the feliway diffuser is on they are quite happy together now).

I've not actually seen it, but I believe the refill bottles are recyclable. Cheaper than cat scraps, vet bills, antibiotics, petrol money to get to the vet etc etc? In my mind, at least it serves a purpose. Always hated the plug-it-in thingies, I'm not a fan of anything plastic like that. It's on par with personalised number plates - expensive and useless (unless it's got Feliway in it of course!!!! :D)

Hedgehog
14-09-2008, 04:35 PM
I believe in opening windows to freshen the air.