Menopausal libido [or lack of]

[sandybay]

Excuse me for going into this topic but it is something that causes me concern at the moment and knowing that a lot of you are similar ages maybe some words of advice/encouragement may spring forth from you.

At 52 my libido seems to have completely gone. My OH is great and not pushy but I feel I'm letting him down. He makes me feel like some sort of goddess when we make love and is the sort of man who likes 'real women' not the airbrushed stick insects with silicone jobs that the media portray as the ideal.

Remembering my thirties and early forties sex was great and fun - where's that part of me gone ? will it return ?


I wonder if some of it to do with living with most of the house still a mess, and since he retired [he's older than me at 58] we see each other all the time so there's not so much time apart.

If it is the meopause does it improve as you move through it ?

[sheddie]

I think it is the menopause sandbay, but don't worry about it. The other day I said to my OH "Make love to me in the kitchen" and he said "why's that?" and I said I want to time my boiled egg.X lol Sorry but I do find it hard to take things serious.Hope you see the funny side! X

[keepersdaughter]

Oh Sheddie, you do make me larf :D:D:D .

Sandybay, sorry I can only say that I think what you are experiencing is quite normal. Everyone is different, I would suggest a trip to Dr to get your hormones checked and see if hormones/ bioidentical or other more natural hormones may help. Sounds like you have a good man there though.

[Crocus]

I'm quite tempted to ask if it worked Sheds!:D:D xxxx

Back to serious stuff - perhaps it will be good to see the dr. about this Sandybay, but how does one explain it to the dr.? I will find it very difficult, to be quite honest. :)xx

[dinger]

sorry I can't comment on this at the moment I am in hysterics .sheds has just told me and her egg was soft . oh dear x

[dinger]

so sorry sandbay I will have to pass I cant stop laughing x

[Oola]

It sounds to me like it's a natural thing. I have no experience of the menopause other than what I've seen others go through, so I by no means think myself an authority on the subjetct! But this is my two cents...

Your menopause means you can no longer produce children, therefore I would expect you don't 'need' your libido anymore. Men can go on doing their bit well into their 60s and 70s (look at Paul McCartney for goodness sake!), so that's why they probably have more a libido at an older age than women.

That said, it might be that because your hormones have been thrown into disarray, it might take you time to settle back down again and your old feelings return. I imagine you're probably feeling tired, maybe a bit stressed or anxious, perhaps a bit emotional or forgetful? All of these things can contribute to a lack of libido, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Give it time and see if things change, if not, you can always go and talk to a female doctor about it. I guess there is no 'normal' way to be really, it just comes down to you, so don't compare yourself to other people (and I imagine a lot of people lie about how often they have sex because they feel pressured by what they think are other people's standards!).

If you think it's something that is really missing from your relationship with your other half, then perhaps try some natural remedies first. Aphrodisiacs and things - oysters, avocados, chocolate (yes! really!), sweet basil, honey, ginger, nutmeg, pineapple and wine to name but a few. The basic principle is that the more balanced nutritionally (and hormonally) you are, and the better your circulatory system, the more you are likely to feel lusty, full of vitality and sensual. :)

[sandybay]

Oh Sheddie, that really made me laugh ! thanks

HRT isn't an option because of my blood pressure but I'll be trying the avocado, chocolate, honey, wine and ginger route Oola - maybe not all at once though !

[Katelb]

sandybay,what a hilarious set of responses you got to your quite reasonable question,I think probably the only lady on here who has not experienced the menopause has given the most comprehensive answer,I should take her advise.!!!! There was I using my old egg timer for a soft boiled egg,I have obviously led a sheltered life!!!

[dinger]

pleased you too had a laugh Sandbay .It was funny was'nt it .x

[Crocus]

I can so agree with you Kate - wasn't at all aware of this way of boiling an egg! Living in the dark ages, me!!! :D:D

[eleanor2]

you made me laugh to sheddy.......sandy bay.i am in the perimenopause.it is doing my head in.i can feel stressed,depressed,happy, anxious.one day one another day another.i am mixed up and forgetful.i tell you the last thing you feel like is sex.i do find time out away from home a good night out etc helps.i dont know about you but in your cycle do you get a few good days. i make the most of them.for the rest i get a good book to read.

[sheddie]

sandybay so glad you could see the funny side you will need to have a sense of humour when dealing with the menopause. But I am going to give you a bit of encouragement here and remind you that my friend who has just had her 75th birthday can't get enough. (boiled eggs that is of course).X
P.S. I think from here on all those that are too embarrased to say the word sex can now use the word boiled egg and did he get his soldiers. X lol

[bonnie]

sheddie you crack me up i cant stop laughing. x
to be seriouse though it does sound menopausal sandybay. i had a hysterectomy in my thirty's and was put straight on hrt. there are some tablets you can go on as i too suffer with blood pressure. the lobido does take a nosedive im afraid, but a nice cuddle can be just as rewarding.im sure your oh will enjoy this closeness too.

anyway there is just so long you can lie there and think to yourself, this bedroom ceiling needs painting. xx

[bonnie]

wife says to her husband, make love to me on the kitchen worktop darling,
why says husband,
wife says i want you to hear the toaster grinding against the worktop,
husband says why does it turn you on,
no says wife, thats how your teeth grind whilst your sleeping.

[franbee]

Well if we're on those sort of jokes...
Man- 'did you finish?'
Woman- 'no, I couldn't get 14 across'

[bonnie]

:Dmust remember that one franbee:D:D

[eleanor2]

i dont get it.......

[sheddie]

Oh go and have a boiled egg and soldiers Eeeee X lol

[bonnie]

:rolleyes:eleanor the wife is doing the crossword at the same time.;)wake up.:confused:

[Clunkshift]

Men’s Libido by age

16 - 20: Try weekly

20 - 30: Try-nightly

30 - 40: Tri-weekly

40 - 50: Try weekly

50 - 60: Try weakly

60+: Try reading instead

[dinger]

This has turned out so so funny Sandbay has lost her libido ,Bonnie's lost her "lobido" sheds boils eggs eleanor don't get it Fran does a crossword whatever next . I think you should follow Oola's advice eat all those goodies and then just lie back and think of England .

[eleanor2]

i get it now.....

[sheddie]

Morning sandybay do hope this has made things seem a little less worrying for you. What we're all saying in fact is I think we either are or have all been there. I have one word for you today to look up on google which is positive help and that's SYLK which can now be got on prescription.If you don't need it now you will if you're not going to take HRT. X
Goodmorning Clunk how funny, you see we have to look on the humorous side or sink. X

[Primrose]

Goodmorning Sandybay

I have just read Sheddie's message and as always if there is something I have never heard of I need to Google it - SYLK. So I did and one site offers a free sample so that sounds good.

Here are my 'five eggs' (sorry only one egg) but I am not taking any blame if combined with all this helpful advice it sends you 'over the top'.

So here you are lying in bed OH fell asleep fed up with waiting and you have a tummy full of lovely natural foods, free SYLK applied and here is my suggestion - a good romantic modern novel. That way when you get to the 'juicy' bits you have your own lovely man right beside you to test it all out on.

By the way did I tell you about my Mum she loves reading and buys her books from the charity stalls. She was passing all these books to me when I was having my Chemo and then - she said 'I have one written by this Jilly Cooper. I don't mind a bit of that on some pages but IT was on nearly every page! So I don't know whether to give it to you or not?'

So I said 'Why don't you think I am old enough at 62?' So we both had a laugh and I said' So how far did you get?' My Mum said, to my surprise, 'Oh! I finished it!'

Finally, there is one thing that is concerning me now and that is Sandy with all this advice are you going to be able to concentrate and not start laughing.

By the way Clunk some men try something else don't they, for example, on your table should it also have -

40 -50 Try weekly and/or Try a younger model

Having said that some ladies do - I am not - suggesting that Sandybay!

Have a lovely day all of you,

Gilly

[Katelb]

Well done Gilly,love your post! you certainly had a fun Mum.
Just for a laugh,I thought I would look up in my Good Housekeeping Book about eggs!.Under the heading "Different Ways of Cooking Eggs" we have Boiled Eggs,Hard-boiled Eggs! Soft-Boiled Eggs,Coddled Eggs,Poached Eggs! Fried Eggs,Baked Eggs,and lastly Scrambled Eggs!!!!. Given that all these methods take different cooking times,sheddie together with Good Housekeeping has given us a lot to think about.It could take a while trying each different recipe!!!!!
Sandybay,together with sheddie's recommendations of SYLK and the above,I hope you are feeling happier about your symptoms!!

[Crocus]

Oh well in that case:


1270


All of your posts had me in silent stictches here............. kitchen floors, crosswords, toasters, my goodness, what next! xx

Sandybay, what have you started here eh?! xx

[Crocus]

Bonnie said that Sheds cracked her up, well, I cracked the egg.......xx

[joyceybug]

Gosh that was good sheds. My libido def. went with the menopause, at the same time as other things arrived such as.....jowels, superfluous hair, saggy boobs, thicker waist, verging on incontinence, shall I go on? Does it sound familiar? ! I'm off for my free sample via SYLK.

[sheddie]

You've all had me laughing so much, just mind you don't slip out of the bed with too much Sylk. see I was trying to be helpful and look at what Kate has put on!! lol

A woman went to the Drs who had swallowed a pound coin, she took a laxative and only 60p came out. She told her Dr and he said "Oh that's ok it's only the change". X
P.S. I had a free range egg for my lunch with soldiers. X lol

Kate does free range mean you put it about a bit? X lol

[Katelb]

An interesting theory sheddie! I haven't had a boiled egg for a while now,I must remedy that forthwith.......an egg for tea!!

I think we shall have to start a new thread entitled 'How to boil and egg'!!

Crocus,it's all very well you putting a tasty looking boiled egg with soldiers on but how long did you cook it for??!!!!!!!

[Crocus]

:confused:Confusing business this menopause, some things go, in it's place some other stuff and things arrive, what will the exchange rate be? Eggs?:cool:

[Crocus]

On a more serious note:

http://www.menopauselady.com/

[Crocus]

An interesting theory sheddie! I haven't had a boiled egg for a while now,I must remedy that forthwith.......an egg for tea!!

I think we shall have to start a new thread entitled 'How to boil and egg'!!

Crocus,it's all very well you putting a tasty looking boiled egg with soldiers on but how long did you cook it for??!!!!!!!

About 6 minutes Kate!! (I'm totally serious)! 6 minutes from when the water starts to boil, but 5 would be better, otherwise eggs are to hard for dipping soldiers in ....

[JG]

I'm wondering if I should send a reply to the original post, now that all these peculiar tangents have emerged, but here goes.
I'm 49 and not menopausal, but am on Tamoxifen for breast cancer and might as well be. I have most of the symptoms: hardly any periods, night sweats, would-be weight gain if I gave in to my urge to eat all day, and vaginal dryness and no libido. It has been explained to me that the lack of oestrogen (Tamoxifen takes its place to foil the oestrogen receptive breast cancer) causes the lining of the vagina to be less plumped up which, therefore, makes it uncomfortable to be touched and for intercourse.
However, I've just had a new Myrena coil and have noticed an increase in sensation. I'm wondering if the hormone (progestorone?) in the coil has replaced some of the 'plumpness'.

The other thing that causes an increase in libido for both OH and me is sunshine.

I still have a real menopause to look forward to: I stop taking the Tamoxifen just before my 52nd birthday - and 51 is the average age for menopause apparently. Oh joy!

How/why are we able to share such intimate experiences here? I hope it's because we can trust each other.

[JG]

Forgot to say - because of the history of breast cancer, I already know that I can't take HRT when it happens. I've been warned off Black Cohosh and am nervous about any plant-oestrogen based supplements or foods. So I am REALLY looking forward to the menopause!

[eleanor2]

jg i have been moaning to myself about the perimenopause and all associated with it.when i read what you say i realise i have it easy onto some.it is important to read about whats going on to us so we can understand and accept all these changes are normal.very infuriating but normal.i feel so fickle in saying that the putting weight on around my waist is making me fed up.i eat healthy and exercise yet it is creeping on.i hate it.....
by the way me and hubby both had an hard boiled egg very hard boiled and lots of sunshine and relaxation last night at fishing.all the right ingredients i think.
forgot to say i had a glass of red wine too.

[Healing Hands]

Sandbay, don't worry you are not alone, I too am going through the same thing, I have a new partner, (as you may not not know I am a widow) and he too is being fairly understanding, but because we have not been together for that long I am not sure how long he can wait. Sorry the choc's and all the other foods do not work, just make you put on weight, which is hard enough with the menopause.

I think we just have to wait and hopefully it will all come back. Hope this helps knowing that it is not just you.

[bonnie]

;)at last eleanor you get it:D question is hoe often do you get it.:D:D

[SheepyJames]

Back to the more serious note (!) -I'm a bit like you JG. Ovarian cancer with the resultant hysterectomy and ovectomy means that my hormones have been pretty much thrown out with the bath water (and the libido)! Can't take HRT because of increased breast cancer risk. But if I could I would go for anything that helps - even boiled eggs!!! I LOVE your rhyme Clunkshift!

[jazzactivist]

Well, this is a very diverse and interesting thread. I have realised that I responded to the one about eggs saying that I don't like them and nor does my OH, but reading this thread adds a whole new meaning to what I said! To get back to the original, I have gone through an early menopause, Sandybay, and am now 46 and on HRT. I did find that my libido diminished to nothing, and I think that you are right and that it was caused by a combination of the menopause and also having an unfinished bedroom full of DIY stuff. Now that the bedroom is looking good and I have been on HRT for a few months, I find my libido returning a bit. However, my problem is that it happens when my OH is away. Well, pehaps he'll get lucky and it will coincide with the weekend sometime. My doctor did offer me HRT that includes a libido enhancer, but I wasn't too sure how it might work... It reminded me of an old joke by the comedienne, Jenny Eclair: " I came on the bus, but managed to pass it off as an asthma attack!"

[sunflower]

I'm just catching up with all the threads. Oh Sheddie, tears are pouring down my cheeks with laughter about the woman who swallowed the pound coin. !!! He He He. I ca'nt stop laughing.!

[Sarahc]

I've been catching up too and have laughed a lot on this one. At 31 I'm not even close to the menopause but am almost looking forward to all the fun you have with a boiled egg - or dippy egg as we call it here. Although, I think i suffered similar loss of libido effects on the minipill, in fact I had to stop taking it as it was a little too effective as a contraceptive, assume that was something to do with the hormones too?

[sheddie]

There sarahc you've said it twice!! X

[sunflower]

PS. I hope she passed the change in twenty pence pieces, no in a fifty and ten pence piece! ouch!!!

[Sarahc]

Excellent, i obviously hit the techie bonus ball!

[sheddie]

What does that mean sarahc you came on your menstrual cycle. X

[dragonfly]

I have never met a group of friends who make me laugh and cry in such a short space of time as you all. I am 57 and have been going through the 'change' for over 20 years since I had a hysterectomy. I keep thinking it is going to end but it doesn't. As a cold person I quite like the hot flushes in the daytime but the night sweats are very annoying. My OH has been away for a few days and is back late tonight. I am planning very hard boiled eggs for supper. I don't fancy eggs very often but really enjoy them when I do.

[eleanor2]

hope you enjoy your very hard boiled eggs tonight....

[joyceybug]

Just hope it doesn't take 5 mins. for a hard egg dragonfly.What a brilliant thread, the perfect mix of funny and informative.

[Crocus]

Hi dragonfly and SarahC, if you really, really want to have a super laugh, go the RM Pantomime Cinderella thread, the Brigadoon thread, the Pancake race Thread. These threads are way back a bit, but you'll find it! Then you will really see what we are about! We're quite mad, but also a 100% serious when called for! WELCOME TO RM!!!:cool: :D:) XXX


Not forgetting the "Knickers" Thread! You won't believe your eyes Dragonfly, I promise!:D xxx

[Crocus]

I don't think that boiled eggs will ever, ever be the same again, not on RM! Who would've thought that a plain and simple innocent egg can cause so many laughs and giggles. I still can't get my head round it.

Just this morning a friend was visiting and she had a text coming through on her mobile saying something to this order:

"Just got a great health tip: There's no reason to fear menopause,.......it's only the eggs that expire, not the hen!!"

Why worry girls!

[Katelb]

I wonder if the sender had been peaking on RM?
As you say Crocus,Why worry! and you are right,'the egg' will never be the same again will it....I had a poached egg for my lunch!!.

[Crocus]

I was thiking the same Kate! Hope you enjoyed your poached egg!;)

[Crocus]

I went on a googling trip to find something about menopause as so many of us are in the midst of it, it seems. Perhaps you want to have a look at this?

http://www.squidoo.com/menolaugh

[Katelb]

What a scream that is Crocus,a real good laugh!! Thanks for putting the link on.xx

[Crocus]

My pleasure Kate - I thought by myself this morning there are a few members on this site struggling with menopause, so why not look for something which makes it a bit easier! xxx

[sheddie]

sandybay where are you, I hope this has made you realise it can be funny too.
Now me being an authority on SYLK I have another product for you all to try, definately don't use soap or have soap in the bath for problems below stairs, get some Femfresh soapfree gel, then no irritants, no dryness and boiled eggs all the way. X

[sandybay]

Here I am Sheddie,

What a great bunch of women you are !

'Middle aged woman' song video on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TVOXdNkFo
or the Squidoo site - it's made me cry with laughter. The words are so true. Thanks Crocus.

[keepersdaughter]

Crocus, Sandybay, Love it - it says it all ! :)

[lily]

Have been a bit busy recently- sorry to have missed this thread. To add a cryptic comment, I find as one gets older it may not be the quantity but the quality certainly improves!

[sheddie]

Lily you mean you're having half a free range egg then do you?X

sandybay, so glad you are such a good sport.X

[Crocus]

Sandybay, thanks for this thread you put on - never had we thought it will be going this "eggy" way - Some are through this stage in their lives, some are in the middle of it, some are on their way, and some on site are to young still to know what we are talking about. Certainly they will be somewhat "prepared" when they reach menopausel stage! Eggs or no eggs! And as the quote says on my friend's text, it's only the eggs that expire, not the hen!!Somehow I get the impression that Sheds is madly in love with eggs?:rolleyes::D

[dragonfly]

Thanks for the information and laughs girls or should I say hens. I have been going through the change for 20 years and have never talked to others about it or been able to laugh at it. I knew about hot flushes and things but never knew that was why I have started to worry about stupid little things that don't matter. I too thought I had altzimers as I am so forgetful. I can't take HRT and have tried a lot of natural stuff but I always get side effects but will keep trying. Thanks for the link Crocus, I have been living with all 7 of the dwarfs.

[Crocus]

Hi Dragonfly, I also don't talk about this menopause stage ......and I've just come to realise that quite a lot of women don't talk about this - surely most womem "suffer" as a result in one way or another? Is it perhaps a matter of if we don't talk about it, it might disappear? - I think there's a lot of psychology attached to it as well. If only we would realise that by talking to someone about it, it may become easier because one probably will get another perspective to this as to your one own way of seeing and experiencing it. Us women can sometimes be so silly about this important stage in our lives which we can't help and can't do anything to prevent it. And yes, those lovely little dwarfs eh? Don't we know about it.:eek:;)

[dragonfly]

I have been checking out the web sites and realise that a lot of things that are happening to me are the menopause and not me going mad. I know why they call it the change, I really have changed. Yes Crocus I have always been a believer in talking about things 'a trouble shared is a troubled halved' but it is finding the right people to talk too. I have always been the one people come to with their problems and I like helping them but find it difficult to talk about mine, I never want to burden them as they have their own problems. I think the best people to talk to are the ones experiencing the same things as you.
Sandybay I have just been on google to look up SYLK, I like baby oil especially the one with aloe vera. I also found out about Viafem, I am going to try it.

[sheddie]

Have any of you had any 'srange' advets popping up on your site since we mentioned this topic?X

[Crocus]

Hi Sheds, no - explain a little more?;)

[sandybay]

Sheddie, do you mean on this site [pop-ups] or spam emails to you ?

[dinger]

associated with this topic? [sheds]

[Oola]

you've probably got spyware or adware on your computers (not related to this website). You'll need to get yourself an up to date virus checker to clear the beasties off your computer.

[sandybay]

Norton are very good for security - we've been pop-up free with them.

[dinger]

thanks oola have told sheds x

[bonnie]

i have been to the health shop and the chemist to try and get some SYLK but they have'nt heard of it, so the girl suggested some head and shoulders. the only improvement down there that i've noticed is that i dont have dandruff.

[dragonfly]

I haven't had any popups yet so our virus thingy must be working but I have noticed that this is the most visited thread on the Health topic.

[eleanor2]

bonnie trust you head and shoulders is for under your arms not down there.didn't you know that.
as for this thread i think its going to be one that keeps going.
my tip is a night when you'v both had a good day,get a warm room,low lights,soft music.then mix carrier oil and ylang ylang.this is an euphoria and aphrodisiac oil.get hubby to massage you with that and be surprised...........at what happens....

[Katelb]

I haven't had any pop-ups either I am being deprived!!.bonnie,I'm so pleased to hear that Head and Shoulders has cleared up your dandruff!!!!!! I'm afraid I would have had some fun with that recommendation,I wouldn't have been able to resist it!!

Dragonfly,you are certainly not going mad or losing your marbles!!! you may,or may not be delighted to know that the memory 'bit' and other eccentric traits stay with you!! probably for good,....I have just resigned myself to being completely potty most of the time ,and the rest I can't remember anyway!!! It can only get better!!!

[dragonfly]

Thanks Katelb it is nice to know that others are the same. It gets embarrassing when you are speaking to people and you can't remember their name but they remember yours. Sometimes I can't even remember where I know them from and used to hope that a clue arrose in the conversation and if not it left me wondering for hours who they were so now I just say 'sorry I can't remember where we've met before' it is embarrasing but I soon forget about it.

[Katelb]

That is a favourite of mine too,thinking 'I know you but can't think what the connection is' sort of syndrome,and another thing that happens a lot to me is ,we lived in London for nearly 27 years and had a lot of friends there,now that we have moved back up north again where we have been for the last 23 years,I get muddled as to whether I knew someone from London or where we live now.!!

[sheddie]

Does anyone have any more embarrasing problems they would like our expert help with? X

[bonnie]

:o i do. my problem is this:o
2 make it stand
you wet it.
2 make it wet
you suck it.
2 make it stiff
you lick it.
2 get it in
you push it.
my word threading a needle
when you get older is NO JOKE.

:D:D

[sheddie]

So do you wear specs Bonnie? and do any of you others wear specs? X

[sandybay]

what goes in hard and dry
and comes out
wet and soft ?




A tea bag of course...... whatever were you thinking.....

[told to me by a friends young son many years ago.]

[Katelb]

Like it sandybay....I did wonder at first!!

[dragonfly]

I wear glasses - I think I have been wetting and licking the wrong things.

[Clunkshift]

A Saxon Riddle

Swings by his thigh a thing most magical!
Below the belt, beneath the folds of his clothes it hangs
a hole in its front end, stiff-set and stout it swivels about.

Levelling the head of this hanging tool,
its wielder hoists his hem above his knee;
it is his will to fill a well-known hole
that it fits fully when at full length

He's oft filled it before. Now he fills it again.




Answer: A key
(and not an egg in sight)

[Katelb]

Excellent Clunk! and as you say,'no eggs'

[sheddie]

My clunk you sure was making me blush then.By the way is everyone getting plenty? Of eggs of course!X
I was at my friends house Saturday when her friend called and kept going on and on about her piles, do you think this is a good teatime subject? X

[jazzactivist]

Aargh! No, sheddie. There are some things that you just don't want to know too much about. I am still reeling from when an aquaintance of mine recently had a small hospital operation to drain a big boil on her bum. I dropped in at her house to see how she was and without any request from me to see it, whipped down her jeans and pants and bent right over, revealing to me not just her boil stitches but everything else too. I was staggered and just mumbled something along the lines of "looks like it's healing well". I later found out that everyone else that she knows had seen it all too... Her lack of shame / positive body image is the talk of the village.

[sheddie]

Oh Jazz how funny, I thought she was going to show us next, she went into such detail it was awful aaaarrrhhhh You really have me laughing here. X lol
When should something be kept private? X

[joyceybug]

I must admit that I am quite open but gosh that's a bit much, what a sight !

[sheddie]

I really am a bit of a prude I think so I'm glad we didn't get to see the offending piles. X

[eleanor2]

I have just been having a very entertaining time reading this thread.What a lot you all are underneath it all.I must just add at this moment in time

I only like very soft boiled eggs Oh lalla this menopause has a lot to answer for.

[cindy]

Tears are rolling down my cheeks. I didn't join RM until much later so hadn't read this thread before. Even OH thought some of the comments were funny
We always have boiled eggs for breakfast on Sundays.... So Sundays will take on a new meaning:D

[Crocus]

Certain people can get real silly eh Cindy?!:D

[eleanor2]

Not me of course i never say silly things...............
How do you like your eggs fried or boiled............I wonder which is the quickest method.
I must experiment....
oh lala i am rambling on i think it is bed time........I hope i dont dream about eggs....

[Crocus]

Please not, no. About the experiment......... let us know .......

[eleanor2]

I mean the cooking of them in reality not having sex in the kitchen as a timer...by the way.

[dragonfly]

Although I've read this thread before I decided to read it again as I forgot what we had talked about. What a lot of laughs we have had over the years. It also made me realise what a lot of members we've lost.