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SummerSkye
13-10-2007, 05:29 AM
I was reading the post on CL about the battery hens the other day and noticed how it touched on milk and the dairy industry so I thought I would start a thread on here about it too. Please note this is from personal observations and from Australia.
We have lived in dairy country for the past 20 years or more, not owning a dairy but becoming friends with farmers and observing how the dairy actually works. In Queensland our neighbours' farm was well run and the animals well looked after. Admittedly all calves were taken from their mothers at about 3 days old. Females were usually kept and grown on to be either sold or used as replacement heifers. Males were invariably sent on 'the calf truck' which took them to the abattoirs. The cows all became very upset when this truck appeared, they knew it meant their offspring were being taken away. Cows would bellow for nights once the calves were taken, it was quite upsetting. On the whole however the cows were content, well fed and lived out long lives. The female owner especially, became very attached to her cows and was extremely upset if they became sick or worse.
Here, in the southernmost part of Australia the dairy industry is harsher. There is less feed (grass) available and cows are outside in quite terrible weather with no shelter. Often there are cases of extreme cruelty in the news where herds have been left starving especially near winter's end. The cow's lifespan is much shorter and the farmers seem to treat the herd more harshly; the dairy farms are much larger and more of a business operation than a family run farm. To observe the cows on a daily basis makes me angry at the way they are treated. Everything today, worldwide seems to be based on making a profit for shareholders, the animals welfare is not considered, or if it is it is not enough. I can not see a bottle of milk now without thinking of the suffering of these animals.

Redstart
13-10-2007, 06:28 AM
You're so right SummerSkye - profit is the guiding light for all aspects of life and shareholder dividens matter the most in the world. I think society is losing sight of what is right and wrong. As far as I am concerned we share this world with other creatures and we should live along side them, respect them and be kind to them.

I'm pleased to say I can buy organic dairy produce and the beef we are currently eating (I buy it in bulk direct from the farmer) is known as "young beef"; this is organic and is a from male "calf" that has been with its mother for 10 months (the natural length of time). The farmer I buy from is so concerned about animal welfare that he got a licence to run his own slaughterhouse on the farm, so that his animals don't suffer stress. The result is his animals live a natural life, and a happy one. Yes, it's more expensive than meat in the supermarket but I think it's worth it.

And you might think that has nothing to do with the dairy industry, but it has. When a cow calves the dairy industry does not want male offspring. These are taken from their mothers after only a few days so that we can have their mother's milk (I too lived on a farm and heard the bellowing mothers). Cute male calves soon become violent bulls and do not provide profit! So most of these young male calves are castrated (they become bullocks) and fattenened up for beef. So the dairy industry is, and always has been, closely linked with the meat industry.

dinger
13-10-2007, 10:40 AM
This is very sad ,living in towns as I do we don't always know or realise this sort of thing happens .Thats why this forum is so interesting we get to learn about things we would never have known otherwise.

SheepyJames
13-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Many male dairy calves are shot at birth because they have no monetary value. While I understand the economics, it is still fundamentally distasteful to bring a life into the world only to destroy it.

I think most consumers have totally lost touch with where their food comes from and how it is produced. I really believe that most don't care as long as it is cheap. Sadly it seems to be only the already enlightened that take the trouble to care. I've heard many say that it's alright to talk about ethics, but some people can't afford to eat properly. Rubbish! Eating properly and healthily requires more effort, not more money.

SummerSkye
14-10-2007, 01:09 AM
Many male dairy calves are shot at birth because they have no monetary value. While I understand the economics, it is still fundamentally distasteful to bring a life into the world only to destroy it.

I think most consumers have totally lost touch with where their food comes from and how it is produced. I really believe that most don't care as long as it is cheap. Sadly it seems to be only the already enlightened that take the trouble to care. I've heard many say that it's alright to talk about ethics, but some people can't afford to eat properly. Rubbish! Eating properly and healthily requires more effort, not more money.

I agree totally we all need to question where our dairy products, meat and eggs are produced and in what conditons. Until we all start questioning and are prepared to pay more to support farmers doing the right thing then the profiteering and absymal conditions for animals will continue.

Redstart
15-10-2007, 10:22 AM
Lost touch indeed. When we lived rented a farmhouse in North Yokshire while we were making our house habitable, some London friends came to stay and we referred to the bullocks in the field as a good piece of beef - they were horrified! We did wonder where they thought meat comes from. Their children didn't even know that milk came from a cow, never mind the mindless cruelty that entails.